We are so excited to have John Pappas here. He comes to us as the head librarian at the Elkins Park free public library in Cheltenham Township, Minnesota, and he's joined Bybee bow, who comes to us from Everett, Washington, close to our Webjunction team. And and she is an author, photographer, video producer and founder of Be Bold Games. And I think we're all set to go. We all set to go on YouTube? And I think, John, the only other thing maybe is to do the full screen, the little full screen box in your bottom. There we go. Excellent. Welcome, John! I'll let you unmute yourself as well. Looks like you're still muted, John. I am going to go ahead and unmute you. OK. >> All right. Can you hear me? >> I can hear you. >> Great! Bebo, are you there? >> I am. I had myself muted but I am no longer muted. >> I know. So did I. How are you, Bebo? It's good to see you? >> I'm great. It's good to see you, too. It's been a couple weeks. >> I know. I'm so excited to talk about board games and libraries. I just want to throw out there really quick to please ask questions in the chat. Like questions in the chat is the only serotonin boost I get all day. I've been doing curbside for three months. Please ask questions. We have got slides interspersed just to answer whatever questions you want to throw at us. I think we're ready. So we are going to talk about online board gaming in the library. If you already have like a board game group that's meeting that has ceased meeting, this will be an easy way to get them sort of connected again. If you have not had a board game night in the library, it's totally fine to start online without ever having anything before. Like you can go right into it. I have had monthly or weekly board game groups and these events, always the most energetic, diverse and popular ones at the library. They are so much fun. I was surprised that, well, on March 11th, we had our last board game night. It was packed. And everybody wanted to play Pandemic. We were so young and foolish back then. Then the quarantine came. We were struggling to connect with each other in a way that we're used to. So I started moving all of our programming to virtual outlets. I did Zoom book clubs, knitting groups, open mics and board gaming. And board gaming has easily been the most popular and most dynamic of that group. I went through a lot of different options on online board gaming. We are going to just limit it to three basic steps. So this is like my spoiler slide. Like if you want to get on to doing something else right now, I am going to basically sum up everything I am going to talk about right now. Like I am here for you. I care. I want you to use your time well. There are really only three things you need to start. First off is you should have a meet-up account. This will be used to set up your events and to get your initial community together. You should get Discord. This helps you maintain and nurture your community and provide a virtual meeting place. It's also free. And you should crews Board Game Arena. It provides a variety of accessible games in one place with a very limited learning curve. It is free or there's a small subscription if you want premium games included. So anyway, that's the talk. Thank you for coming. We started -- so I want to talk about Zoom real quick. I am so Zoomed out. Zoom is like for very good looking people on camera staring a somewhere in the middle ground. It's great for scheduling events. It's not great for building community. And I think most of my programming, and I think maybe most of your programming as well, is community-based. I just don't want to schedule an event, I want to start building and nourish whiching -- nurturing a community. If you already have Zoom and you want to schedule like a single event, go for it. Like a trivia night or open mic. But I think people play board games and go to board game meetups to socialize. They're there to be with other people. I want my events to be about building communities. It's all about people talking and laughing and sharing stuff around a table whether like in real life or virtually. So I think it's really important to keep that social aspect of board games in play. So that said, I don't like using Zoom and I don't use it for my board gaming nights. It just doesn't do the right thing for me. Instead I already spoiled this, I prefer Discord. This is a chat app similar to Skype or Slack. It's geared towards video game providers providing them with ways to connect, coordinate with each other, and talk while playing. It supports video calls, voice chat, and text. And it really helps build my board gaming community. Everyone, it's the hub of everything that we do. Will while Zoom feels a little like a tool to facilitate an event, this feels like a place where people can gather and converse. They have a lot of agency on Discord. For example, you can set up different text and voice chat rooms. I have voice channels for three different tables. So people who are playing different games can find a voice channel and meet right there. It lets you have a much larger group playing games. We can have like three or four different tables, people conversing, people playing different stuff. We also have different text channels. My personal favorite is dear person please take your turn. We get a lot of asynchronous play. So when people are having a game played over several days, we found that a lot of our general chat was turned into people telling everybody what their turn was so we just made a specific channel for. It's easily my favorite channel. Since we're building a community, I think it's important to have a code of conduct. I think Bebo could speak to this as well. >> Yes. >> I have two basic questions. And these are the ones I use for my board game meet-up in person night. And I carried it over to our virtual nights. The two questions are, do you agree to a gaming space that is also a safe space? Where a person or category of people can feel confident that they will not be exposed to discrimination, criticism, harassment, or any other emotional or physical harm. Second question, do you agree to honor and use an individual's pronouns? Really simple. Straight off the bat. The answer is yes, yes. And you are good to go. If the answer is yes/no or no/yes or no/no. It's a good spot to say I don't think this group is going to be a good fit. And move on. So far it has kept my community healthy and accessible and friendly and I have rarely had any issues. Bebo, I know this is a big one for you. Do you have anything to add to that? >> Just in general, a code of conduct means nothing if you don't enforce it. And that even means enforcing it with people that you like. And that's really important to hold everybody to that standard and hold them accountable. That doesn't necessarily mean punishing anybody. It just means having a conversation and making sure that everybody knows going in that an open dialogue is critical to maintaining a healthy community. >> That is awesome. So recognizing and addressing problematic behavior, exactly. In discord, usual set up your mod Denver ration settings. I usually have them pretty low because I spend a lot of time actually on the site and moderating stuff as it happens. I agree that you should recognize and address problematic behavior quickly. And address it quickly. Personally, what I tend to do is, if someone is, I think, going against behavior policy is, I mute them and then send them a direct message explaining what behavior I'm finding problematic. And if it continues, I just go ahead and ban and block as needed. Honestly, it's rarely been needed. The only time I've actively had to ban someone from our Discord channel is a person who had a homophobic slur as their screen name. It was quickly called identity, brought to my attention, and I banned the person from the group. >> John? >> Yes. >> This is Jennifer. There have been already a lot of questions. So I just, before we move on, thought maybe we could touch on a code of conduct and then also the platform questions. A great question someone asked, why where do you put the code of conduct? Is it something that has to be filled out before entering? When do you connect with them on code of conduct? >> That's a grate question. So for everything goes through meet-up first. Meet-up did a pretty good job of providing the ability to meet digitally. So anything that links to our Discord goes through meet-up. I schedule events there. When you join the meet-up, it has -- you have the option of asking questions. And those are the two questions I ask. And when they answer them, I consider that them agreeing to our code of conduct '. >> OK. Excellent. There was a question, a couple questions actually about meet-up as you began. In terms of charge for meet-up sounded like for more than 50 people in your group, someone posted to chat that it's around $200 a year or free for smaller groups. Can you talk a little bit? I know you have been using meet-up for years. >> I know. I'm going to go right ahead my next slide is on meet-up. Meet-up is, I think it's running me somewhere between like $125 a year. For the size that I have it. I know their pricing scale has changed here and there. It is one of the few things that I think is well worth money for programming. Meet-up does a great job of pushing your events towards people in your community that will be interested in it. I think it does a lot of the promotion and marketing for us. When I start a meet-up group, after it's been approved, it will take maybe about a week, and I will usually get between 50 and 60 people within our community joined up. And it will generally grow pretty steadily from there. So there is a cost to it but I think it's worth it. We also use it for knitting groups and LGBTQ groups and a book club. We had a quarantine book club at the beginning. And we use meet-up for all of those. >> Excellent. There were a number of, a lot of people chimed in and said that their library has said they can't use Discord. So people might need some talking points on how to pitch Discord as a helpful tool for hosting an evening. >> I think Bebo can speak to this as well. I think you can lock down discord pretty tightly if you need to. And I have not -- I have had more difficulty with security in Zoom than I have in discord. >> Yup. >> That's an alternative as well. >> Which one? >> Slack is a really good alternative tokiss cord if people find discord ton a little confusing. It know it can be intimidating Ilgauskas it is so customizable but there is a free version of Slack in that's easier to manage. >> Excellent. >> And if you are having difficulty with your administration using discord, I know sometimes those walls are difficult to breach. Board Game Arena where I play most of our games has its own has its own video and audio occupations. It's not as good as Discord but it's enough to get buy. It would limit the scope of your events. But you could still have some pretty good events just using Board Game Arena. >> Excellent. And I know there are already questions about gaming platforms. So I know John is going to cover all of that. >> We will get to gaming platforms. Real quick with meet-up, I generally do weekly game nights. Sometimes I'll do a couple a week. I generally feature a game. I think it's really good to have like an easy access for people who may not have played anything to be able to say, I'm playing 7 Wonders or Sushi Go tonight. It gives a little direction rather than just being, hey, we are going to get-together and play games. You will get the digital of people wandering aimlessly in a library community room trying to figure out what they're supposed to do. So I usually give really specific examples of what we are going to be doing. So, for example, we are going to play board games, we are going to play 7 Wonders at Board Game Arena and I usually recommend that they register before hand and send me their screen name so that I can get them friended really quickly. I've had board game nights through meet-up that have been very well attended and I have some that were like minimally attended. I think it will vary. You will figure out sort of what your sweet spot is. A lot of us are doing remote working right now so I generally schedule these four when I am going to be home in the evening instead of doing curbside at the library. Also we have got a pretty good membership at our board game meet-up and that's been about two and a half years of, you know, curation and events. I apologize for all of the tabs I have open on that screen shot. So meet-up changed a little bit since everyone was in quarantine. They use a link to online meeting spaces like Discord or Zoom. I usually set my link setting to not expire as far as time but to expire after a certain number of uses. It usually gets enough people attending that I can handle it at one time. So just as a general tip when you're doing your meet-up groups. I usually let it expire after a number of uses. And usually I think it's like 10 or 25 depending on what I think is going to arrive. I did have a question slide. Did we have any more questions about stuff? >> Let's see. There was a question about whether or not your gaming events are all ages. And a second question related to that. With the digital divide, do you feel like the senior set needs a different sort of set of on boarding as well? >> Those are such good questions! So I generally do adult or teen programs generally skewed a little more towards adults. So I have not done all ages virtually. Bebo just mentioned something about all ages Discord which sounds amazing so I think we may try to explore it. The difficulty for me is really keeping, figuring out a way to keep an all ages open community well moderated and safe. Especially if we're talking about having kids involved. So, no, usually adults or teens. What was that other question? >> Well, I--- >> Oh, digital divide. >> Someone asked about older adults. >> We have always got a wide array of ages at our board game nights in real life and digitally. I have do not find that age is a good indicator of a person's ability to adapt and play some of these games. I think with guidance, Board Game Arena has a learning curve that's easy to approach no matter the age of the person. So I have not seen a lot of that. I have had a few individuals of varying ages have a difficult time with either Board Game Arena or Discord. But it's kind of a rare event. I also will, if a person is unsure and it's their first time and meet-up is great because you can converse and talk in the comment section of your event. If a person is completely new, I will sometimes like Guam them through it and give them a little bit more one on one time to get them set up. But really I think across the board, everyone does a pretty good job. And we get all ages. All adult ages. I'm sorry. I shouldn't say all ages. >> So there's definitely folks that are -- this is all completely new to them. So can you just maybe review, it kind of sounds like you are talking about, so far you have talked about two decisions that need to be made. One is that you choose meet-up for -- can you just describe what meet-up does and then the Discord? What Discord does just to make sure we're on the same page. >> So meet-up lets me create and promote events at the library. So I will create a meet-you have event. It can be, we'll just say play board games. We will play 7 Wonders at Board Game Arena. I can limit the size of people who can RSVP. There's a comment section below the event. I include links to maybe like a video too torial. He have -- tutorial. I usually use meet-up primarily to get people in the community aware that we're doing board game nights. So it gets more, it markets our events much better than we do with usual library procedures. Especially since we're closed to the public and a lot of other people are. I don't get a lot of people coming into the library and checking out what we're doing. So meet-up has been really great at keeping these events sort of in the public eye. It's fairly simple. You just create a date, range of times, and the number of people you want. >> Excellent. And so then once you've found a way to market and connect people, then you would move to decisions around a platform where they could gather? >> Yeah. So in the meet-up event, I include a link to the Discord. You can also use like a Zoom link or whatever you're using. And people then will generally, you know, like half an hour, an hour before the game night, start popping in to Discord. So I'm usually there and ready. And Discord will show you when someone arrives. And I will say hi, you know, Wes, how's it going. Nice to meet you. And sort of get people situated. Pretty much like hosting an event in real life. >> Fantastic. Yeah, I think there's a few other questions that we can circle back to once we talk a little bit more about the gaming platforms. >> All right. We'll start again, I'm obviously going to recommend Board Game Arena but we will start with a lot of these other ones that have pros and cons. For example, Steam, while the platform is free, the games are not. And I have had a difficult time getting people who want to play acquire, the same game or having the money in order to pay for the game. And to play. Also difficult to moderate. You want most of your library programs to be accessible. So great games. Great interface. It looks amazing. But I rarely use it. Tabletop stimulator, you can get this off of Steam. Good selection of games. Some are even free. There's a lot. It simulates the gaming table. You can pick up stuff and move it around. It's basically like a physics engine. There's a huge learning curve with the functionality on Tabletop simulator. You can't just pick it up and go. You have to learn how to manipulate things. Tabletopia, same thing. It's also a simulator. It runts on a virtual table. All the pieces and everything is there. A lot of the games are free. There's a huge learning curve. I spent an hour just learn, how to flip over cards. It's so -- so clunky to use. >> It's all about like knowing the hot keys and there's no easy way to learn them. It's very frustrating to learn on, and also at any given time, any one of the players can just flip the table. Because again it's a physics simulator. >> People are really excited about that whole table flipping thing and it makes me nervous. >> Yeah! Because you can do it accidentally, too. >> So I've had a difficult time with these different engines because there is such a learning curve and there's so much time that needs to be dedicated to teach people how to just navigate the stuff. So outside of testing the waters with them, I moved quickly on to Yucata and Boitejeux. I think I said that right. The interface looks so antiquated but I swear that makes it so much easier to use. Like I generally don't have people that have a difficult time picking up exactly what they have to do with these games. It's not like a Tabletop simulator. Everything is on rails. You can't make mistakes. It does all the scoring for you. That isn't the case with Tabletop simulator or Tabletopia. It has some decent games. Some really good beginner game. It has Al ham bra and DIXIT and Concordia is easily my favorite game. Maybe not the best one to begin with. These you register. You can start tables. It's very similar to starting something up on Board Game Arena. It's sort of skewed towards asynchronous play. So if you want more, in order to play real time, you have to constantly sort of refresh your browser and that can be a little bit frustrating. But both are really good options. There are also some clones that are really good. And I generally don't recommend clones except for the fact that you can't copy write game mechanics. So as long as the artwork, text, icons, rules, and like places and lower aren't, are stripped away, you can basically play the exact same game. And I think this is Mattel online. And colonist.IO. And you can play. >> Gary: , splendor. A lot of really good games that all sort have this general look where they strip everything away and make it really, you know, simplify it all. These are really good options if you want people to play like KAtan. There are official sites like dominion and code names. These are really easy to teach and get people started on. They tend to have a lot of replay value. So you can potentially have a co-minion or code names night every week and people the not get tired of it at all. These come out really quickly. So Board Game Arena is the one that I generally use for most of my gaming events. You can set up a real time or turn based games. Zosyn cron Ness or asynchronous. Retimes games all players are online at the same time. You generally have a few minutes to take your turn. You can audio chat during these games. Either through Discord, which I prefer, or through Board Game Arena. But you have to have one person who is a premium member. Basically one person who pays the subpsychiatrickion fee in order to use that service. >> And it's -- >> Yeah. Something like that. It's not that expensive. It's totally worth it. Honestly to get Kingdomino and 7 Wonders which are really great games. I think if you have difficult with your libraries getting an OK to use a Discord channel, I think just using the Board Game Arena chat and video options are to more than adequate for what you need them for. >> Can I jump in and ask a couple questions before we look at the specific games? >> Sure. >> There was a question about how many people, either can play at a time or that you encourage to play at a time? >> That depends entirely on the game. I think some games can play as many as, you know, 10 to 12 people. And I think those games, you can easily moderate one of those. They tend to be a little bit simpler. I think the good meaty spot is four or five people playing one game. And I think that if you are doing this solo, maybe four to five people is all you want to start off with. I find that as you start playing, you start getting like these like people who get really invested in the community and in playing. And they will start like teaching games and sort of taking like a little bit more of an active role. And once you get a few of these people interested, it's a lot easier to get multiple tables up at one time. But I definitely think it's best to start maybe slow with like one table, four or five people playing a simpler game. >> So I think that is important to remember, too. People were asking about how much you promote. And knowing that if you are just getting started, you maybe don't need to think about how many different channels you are using to market the gaming. It could be if you have a couple people that are sort of your pilot participants. So keep that in mind if you are just getting the started. >> I think a great thing to do is take meet-up and just limit it to the amount of people you're comfortable with. And do all your marketing through just do the meet-up. I think that will give you enough people, especially at the beginning. >> Excellent. Great point. Someone did ask if you could say the small premium that you mentioned again and that amount. >> Oh, it's $24 a year. >> OK. Perfect. >> And that unlocks the premium games, the video and audio chat. >> The big thing is Kingdomino. >> We should talk about Kingdomino. Also I totally recommend if you really want to learn, it's really hard to sort of talk about what Board Game Arena looks like and how it operates. It's really worth it just going on there. You don't have to subscribe or anything. I'm on the play now, the screen shot shows play now. You can pick any of those games and it will show how many tables are available. You can almost jump in cold and learn how to play as you go. And it gives agood feel on how everything operates. I always recommend people play the games before they teach them in real life and it's totally the same way here except it's much, much easier and it doesn't cost you to buy a game and then try to play it and see if it works for your group. >> Excellent. Let's keep going and we'll just make sure and save some time at the end for questions. People are going to be excited about the games themselves. >> Bebo, are you ready to talk about games with me? >> I am always ready to talk about games. >> Yes! All right. We'll start with Kingdomino. And I will give it to you. You are the board game expert. >> OK. So I love Kingdomino because this is a game that you can play with kids. I would say even as young as like five or six. My daughter definitely started playing this game pretty young. The core of the game is that there are a bunch of tiles on the board and you are going to take one of your workers and you are going to pick one of those tiles and place it on to your player board. And you'll see here and you notice John has this up. The separate colors are separate regions. Once all the tiles are gone the players are good going to score up their total based on the tiles they have taken on their game. You will see in the center there there's five forest, dark green tiles on that center board. What that means is at the end of the game you are going to multi-fly the number of crowns on the tiles plus the number of those spaces on the board. For example, that one has two crowns visible and five files. That will score the player 10 points. It's really simple. It hips kids with math especially. But if you are an adult, I found that the two-player version is a ton of fun because it gets really competent and I have and aggressive. There are times john and I will be playing this online and I will shake my fist at the sky and be so frustrated because he's a hate drafter. >> Kingdomino 2 player is so, so good. It's absolutely the game to play if you are just introducing someone to playing board games. I always, like if someone is new, it is my number one game to be like great! You can teach it as you go. It's really simple. You're just placing one of your little king pawns on to the domino you want. And then just placing it on your board. It's super simple. Yeah, that two player version is so -- I play so easy with people their first time. I just sit back and be like, go ahead, take those. You got this. And they'll win and they'll feel so good. Yes, you're hooked! Kingdomino. Kingdomino is so good. This is the best game. You'll play it all the time. >> I'm obsessed with it. >> I love you are obsessed with this game. >> Yeah. It's just so simple and elegant. And I was very surprised when I played it for the first time and was just like, oh, wait, this looks so easy. But it's just incredible. >> Bebo, I'm just going to jump in really quick. It sounds like the volume is considerably different between you and John. So if you could turn yourself up, that would be great. >> OK. Is this better? >> That's a lot better. Thank you. >> OK. Sorry. Yeah. My microphone fell a little bit off my shirt. >> All right. We got Sushi Go. >> This game is great. So Sushi Go is the quintessential game for teaching people how to play a drafting game. And the reason why is that the beginning of the game you are going to get a handful of cards. And on each of the cards, it's going to say how to score points for them. Some of them will give you more points if you have more of the same card. Some of them will give you more points if you play another card on top of it. So on and so forth. It's very, very simple math, addition and subtraction and multiplication. It teaches those mechanics to young kids but it's engaging enough to keep everybody involved. It's not a kids' game. It is a very fun all-ages game that is a hoot. I just, every time I play this game, I end up halving and just having a great time. And it's a great game to play while you're having casual conversation with the people around the table. >> It's also super easy to teach. You're basically just collecting similar cards of similar colors in order to score points. And I love that you say, as you see, the cards, the pink cards all the way to the right? You save the pudding. They score points at the end of the game. So you're saving dessert for last. Throughout the game you are just collecting as much pudding as you can for the end of the game which I think is so cute. Everything looks adorable with this game. I love playing it. I always lose. >> Yes, you do. That's true. >> I know. Carcassonne. >> O. my gosh. Carcassonne is an absolute classic. This is a game where you're simply going to draw a tile and place it on the board and then you are going to have a number of peoples. You will score points for roads and castles that you've placed your meoples into and fields you are laid your meople down into as well. The score is really simple. It's super easy to learn and teach. And it's one of those games, and this is one of the main reasons why I love it, where as you are playing the game, you can teach how to play the game and the players while you're playing are not going to feel like you tricked them into not scoring enough points. It's that simple. So it's really easy to sit on the table and teach as you go without having to have a long rules explanation. >> And I just want to mention like really quick, that when I say something is on rates, the Carcassonne is a really good example because they will always tell you. You are basically on your turn placing one tile somewhere on the table. And it will tell you where you can and where you can't. So it will on let you place it where you can place your tile. Some like Tabletopia or those simulators, you can place it wherever you want and it's up to the people playing to sort of moderate whether or not that's a good move. This will go ahead and tell what you moves are open to you. So, yeah, you can just zit there and you don't have to know any of the rules and just figure it out as with you go. This is always one of the first ones I teach to a group because there's almost always one or two people who are at least familiar with it. And I couldn't get a good screen shot of it because it was a little glitchy for some reason. I think a lot of people were playing it. Stone Age. >> Oh, my gosh. >> Stone Age is actually one of of my very favorite games. This is great because it helps introduce players to the idea of a worker placement game. On your turn you are going to take one of your workers and place them in one. Those spots on the board and those are either going to kind of let you gamble and roll the dice and receive rewards as a result. They will allow you to draft cards that will give you various resources and benefits throughout the game as well as the end game scoring points. And there's even a spot where you can breed your two people and create more little Stone Age workers for you to have more actions on future turns. It's really easy to teach. It's really easy to learn. But it is more of a medium-weight game compared to the other games we've been talking about. So make sure that you look up the how to play video or read the rule book carefully before jumping into this one. It's much easier to be an ka Verna. >> This is usually the first like quote-unquote strategy game I'll introduce players to. So like the third or fourth event with one group of people generally Stone Age will come out. Because in the end, you can just say, you will win this game if you build huts or buy cards. And that's it. >> Yes. >> If they focus on those two things they are guaranteed to do OK. I am constantly make fun that there's a Whoopi hut in order to get additional workers. >> It's so funny, though. >> I love it. O. Saboteur. Have you played Saboteur? >> I worked on a how to play video for it. And I have played it. It's not my favorite. >> It is not mine either. It is not my sort of game but I have never played a game where people got more animated or excited. The goal is simple. Your goal is to get to one of those three face down cards because one of them has gold. And you're a miner and you want to get the gold. There is one person who is a Saboteur. And you don't know who that is. And that person is going to try to keep you from getting to that gold. And they're going to do it by sometimes lying, placing not the best cards, or flat out attacking your equipment and breaking like lanterns and keeping you from being able to take any actions. Saboteur, it's such a mean game. It's a great game if you have teens that are playing that wanted an excuse to be mean to each other. You can also play a lot of people at once. So if people are really, if they're OK, like I mean for a game like this, I generally have to explain first, like listen, this is a game where you are going to be doing mean things to other people. Like that is a part of the game. So if a mean things happens to you it's not personal. It's just a thing that's happening because that's the way the game was designed. But it's not my favorite game. But I have seen people enjoy it so much. And I feel like every time I play -- >> Sorry. It's definite Lee a lot of fun for people who like games likes resistance, hidden identity style games. >> Yes. Six Nimmt! >> This one is all you. >> Great! 6 Nimmt! is easily the silliest game I have seen. You have a hand of cards. And you are going to place, pick one to play. And it's gonna go next to the nearest number there. So that nine card is going to go right next to that four card. And you start with 65 points. And every time your card gets placed on one of those bull spots, you add up all those little triangles in that row and you lose those points. The game ends when someone hits zero. I kind of love the fact that you are just watching like one person just tank the entire game and then once they hit zero the game ends and the person with the most points remaining wins. I like it because it's silly. It's like nearly all luck. But you can play a large group of people. And no one is going to take it seriously. It is such a fun like slab dash card game to play. This is one of the ones I just learned recently and I went in cold without learning any of the rules and started playing it. I had such a good time and I have no idea what was fun. I have no idea what 6 Nimmt! means. 7 Wonders, this is definitely you. >> This is one of my all-time favorite games. This is a perfect step up from Sushi Go. In this case instead of drafting sushi, you will be drafting resources in order to build up your civilization. And what that means is on your player board you are going to have three monuments that you could be building. And you are going to need the resources to build them. At the end of the game you are going to score points for the various cards you drafted which will include plain victory points that you have drafterred. There will be cards that are called guild cards and they will bill you points. There's also the sciences which will have an exponential effect based on different sets that you have of them as well as multiple of the same kinds of cards. This game is one of my all-time favorites because of the fact that even though you're drafting cards and it seems really simple, it's one of those things where if you look to the player on your right and you look to the player on your left and you see that they're going after something, you can take that card that they need and stick it right under your player board to build that monument and it's up to you to decide whether you want to taunt them because you took the card they needed. >> I love this game because have military and you can only attack your two neighbors. It plays up to seven people so you can get a good amount of people playing this game. But it's really only your two neighbors you have to worry about. I have almost every game played, someone many say, oh, no, I'm sitting next to John. They start racking up military. It is a game that has a learning curve. Your first game will be slow because there is icons and there's like different rules and it does take some explaining. But once you get this down after a couple of games, they're fast, they're quick. Up play in less than a half hour. This is such a great game. I wish they would put more of the expansions on this but they haven't. They just have the base. It's so much fun. Potion explosion. >> Oh! This is one of of my favorite games ever! >> Isn't it? >> Potion explosion! It's so much fun. It's so silly. I also recommend the app version. Which you can also just play on your phone with your friends as well. And it's really easy to use and to play. Potion explosion is a game where you pull a marble from this marble dispenser that you see here, and if two marbles of the same color touch each other as a result of you pulling that marble out then they explode and you get them, too. You will use those ingredients to fill up your potion bottles which you can also see there. You will get points forever each of those points. They will also give you a special ability. And if you flip that bottle upside down it implies you have drunk the potion, will have you already filled in all the ingredients. Then you can use its special ability just once so you will be using that to get more ingredients. And it's really cute, really fun. The various ingredients are called things like fairy dust and like -- >> Unicorn tears. >> Super -- LaMichael silly gross things. And it very much feels like you're making potions in a Wizards classroom. >> This game is one that my kids, nine and 12, love to play. It I think it has a lot of appeal across different ages. It's really simple. It's just like one of those little app games where you take one and any time they hit you get more stuff. You get a handful of marbles and you get to score them all over and earn points. I think it only plays two or a few people. I have today's towards games where you can get a lot of people playing at once. This one is very easy and fun and intuitive. Hanabi. >> , my goodness. So Hanabi is one of favorite two-player games provided that you don't want to like the person you are playing with afterwards. [Laughter] Sorry. So this game is pretty fun. But you have a hand of cards and you can't see what they are. And you also have a limited number of hints that you can give. When you get a hint, you choose to either tell the other players whose hands you can see, either a number in their hand in which case you can point to those cards and say you have these two cards that are fives, or a color. And the goal of the game is to complete your board here, which is made up of five different colored decks. And you have to play the cards in order. If you don't play the cards in the correct order and you decide to play a card and you can't play it, then, you've basically misplayed this fireworks show and accidentally set off a fire work out of time. And the cards are labeled one through five. There are more 1s and only 5 in each color so you need to be careful about making sure that the players are not starting their 5 card. So on your turn you can take one of three actions. Play a card from your hand. You can give a-point to one of the other players. Or you can discard a card in order to get a clue back H you run out of clues you can't give them anymore which meanings everybody there has to play cards from their hand which is a very dangerous thing to do. Once the deck runs out or once you have lost, you will be given a final score and based on what that score is, you will have given a certain quality of fireworks show to the audience. >> I think I want to mention that, I want to bemoney the fact there are not enough cooperative games on Board Game Arena. >> Yes! >> Hanabi is a game where you are all working together. Any cooperative game is so easy. It's so easy to teach. Because there's no competition. Everyone is working together. So if you have to figure out rules as you go it's really easy to sort of E. plain stuff. And -- explain stuff. I absolutely adore this game. I wish there were more games like it on Board Game Arena. I would play like flash point fire rescue or other cooperative games until the end of time fives given the option. But Hanabi is a really, really fun cooperative card game. The screen shot is a little weird because I was spectatiing a game when I took the screen shot. So I was unable to see -- when you play this game, you are able to see everyone else's hand. And your hand, you can't see. So it's very weird. Until people sort of give you clues about what you have. Last one, Incan Gold. >> That's all you. >> Great. I figured because this totally doesn't feel like a game that you would enjoy. Incan Gold is a press your luck game. I like it because you can play a whole lot of people. Your goal is to go deep into this temple to get as many gems as possible before hazards happen. And hazards are fire -- it's a card that has like fire, a rock slide, there's like a monster, giant spider. And when two of the same hazard happens, you get scared out your wits, you drop owl your treasure and you run out of the temple. But your goal should be to get as far as you can in there, and eventually on return you say, you have two options. You can either go in further or head back to Balch are camp. If you say head back to camp you walk up and pick up all those little gems and stuff as you go. But if someone also decides to walk back to camp you have to split between and leave the remainder. So sometimes like if you think you are the only one going and three other people go, you may actually walk back with only one or two gems. You go into the temple five times and after the fifth time the person with the most gems wins. Also they are hidden. It's one of those games where you don't really know how everybody else is doing. I like it because it's simple. I like it because it plays a lot of people. I am also really, really bad at it. So that's Incan Gold. And I think that's the last one. We made it to the end, Bebo. >> We did! Woohoo! >> Excellent. We have a little bit of time to talk about questions. Definitely again people are sort of like, oh, wait, I'm confused. I need to get started. John has done another Webinar about getting started and he has a series on the games themselves. If you could just talk a little bit more, John, I know it's because you have been doing this so long. Maybe shifting to thinking about someone that's just trying to get started and to get their leadership on board. Some folks were asking for not so much tips about the games to choose but how do you sell the idea of virtual game events as a regular thing for administration? >> I multiple, I think it's -- I think at this point in time anything that you can do online is an easy sell. >> Absolutely. >> One thing -- I'm trying -- one thing I think we really lost when we went into quarantine, and a lot of our community space v. shut down, is the ability from diverse backgrounds and ages and ethnicities to get together and really just enjoy socializing and playing and being in a space together. I've noticed I think for the most part that people who are playing games aren't playing to win. They're not playing because they're hobbyists. They're playing because they enjoy the interaction with the people around them. >> And they need socialization especially right now. >> Yes! I have had so many people in this board gaming group who have bonded so much with each other. Like at this point in time they're pretty much just like talking about their life and showing baby pictures. And then playing like a game of Hanabi or starting like big bloom haven. I have got a game called gloom haven. Maybe you will. Some will. It's insanely complicated and there's so much. And a small group has started playing and every once in a while they grab one of the tables and start playing. We don't have a physical space in a lot of libraries right now. I think Discord can be a physical place for people to get together and play. I mean, it meets all the things that libraries need to do. >> So that leads to the, someone said, can you talk a little bit about how Discord serves as a social space. So people can access it outside of game night? >> Yes. It is going 24/7. So while when I'm doing a game night, we will use Discord to get together and do stuff. But when I am not doing game night, any of the people that are on it the way I have it set up, you can have it set up that this does not hand. People who have joined can pop in. They can ask to anyone is interested in playing. They can see who else is online. They can get-together. So it feels like a community meeting place. And a library is a community meeting place. It's just a meth community meeting place, all the physical elements are shut down. I always wanted my patrons to have agency. I wanted them not to come to events. I want them to be part of events, schedule their own events. I want them to make the library a place where they are getting together to play. I will be honest with you. Play as adults is so underrated. I think just being able to have that space for people to get together. Discord is why I like Discord over Zoom is the fact it can operate as that space. You just have to be responsible enough to moderate it. Right now, I have got about between 40 and 50 people on my Discord at one time. And it is easy enough for me to moderate. And it grows a little bit every time I have a board game night. But it is always running. It feels a little bit more and I hate saying this it feels more like a Facebook group than anything else. If you take everything that's horrible about Facebook away, you kind of have what a Discord looks like. Except when you go into some other 2 Discords. >> Fantastic. Someone just said they use Discord to trade turnips. [Laughter] >> Let's go to the next slide I I want to make sure people have your contact information. >> I am going to Bray it back up to the top. >> And just so folks know, we will be sending you to a short survey as you leave. And that will be a way for you to provide feedback on this session and help us guide our ongoing programming. And here you see both John and Bebo's contact information. So feel free to reach out with additional questions to them. But we'll also ask them to take a look at chat and if they have additional thoughts to share with you all, we'll post that information on the event page as well. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Email me questions. I love getting people started on gaming in the library. >> Someone just said can we join your gaming group? >> No joke? Yes! If you email me, I will send you a link. And I will play those games with you. We will get you started. I will talk to your boss! >> Excellent! Great. We've got an advocacy person in house here with John. So, well, thank you so much to both of you for your awesome passion and experience around this topic. And thanks to our captioner. I will send you all an email later today once the recording is posted. And for those of you here in the WebEx room a certificate for attend, remember all of Webjunction learning is free and you can access certificates for your learning in the Webjunction catalog at any time. So thank you all for being here. And everyone have a great rest of your week. >> Bye! >> Bye!