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What is Web 2.0 really?
1:21 AM EST 2/14/07
[Note: this topic was branched from its original entry in the [url http://webjunction.org/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=29902#29902 ]What do you want to see on WJ?[/url] topic.]

"I'm with him on the question mark".

That maybe makes two if us, if anyone could tell me what Web 2.0 means.

There's a head gathering steam over in the antipodes. I'll point you at a moodle that's a hub for professional educators in
[url=http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=6100]Oz.[/url]

There's a link out to Sean's blog, which I thought was pretty good as a template I'd like to share with a few others, as a really nice scene setter.

PS Yo know RLG will be merging with OCLC, with RLG being across some research and promotion. They've got a larger perspective on the librarian's problems in cyberspace, which hopefully, might encourage a few global boards to start sharing one enquiry between them, and figuring where the archives are kept.Did i mention WJ's English peers? http://www.dcc.ac.uk/forum/
Looks like you might be sharing directors.

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Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
1:31 PM EDT 9/6/06 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
I believe Web 2.0 was, originally, an O'Riley term copyrighted for use as a conference label. I can't say it has any reality beyond that, excepting maybe enthusiasm on the part of some.

Or many.

Take your pick. :-)
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
1:31 PM EDT 9/6/06 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Well the one thing I'm hoping it means, for professional web librarians, is that we might see initiatives like Questionpoint come into their own. Especially this bit about Creating a shared resource http://www.oclc.org/questionpoint/libraries/network/default.htm

I don't see how QP's aims can be systemized until moderators get across at least two boards, and consider how to classify the similar conversations and discussions (the questionpoints) on two communities' boards. i.e. The "Themes" as they are called on DCC's board. http://www.dcc.ac.uk/forum/

You can see from what the DCC is doing with their Events, that it's pretty easy to assemble resources. My interest is in 'what we might see', when isolated communities start to consider the accessgrid instead of a chat room, and 'geeks' start getting concerned about their repositories, as they are starting to now. http://www.accessgrid.org/

That said, I noticed this session in an email just received.
WebJunction e-Learning Focus Group
Time: Saturday, June 24, 1:30 pm - 3:30 pm
Place: Wyndham Canal Place - Magnolia I

Wish I could be a fly on the wall.
The Group may like this recent UK one.http://www.elearning.ac.uk/

Could I ask, if you are going, that this group might just consider running a few global teleconferencing sessions with a few global peers? Nothing big and flash, just as a way of augmenting these www boards.
Re: What Do You Want to See?
2:38 PM EDT 6/5/06 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
(I'm hoping a host will move this good conversation elsewhere ...)
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
1:32 PM EDT 9/6/06 as a reply to Bob Watson.
I think Web.2 is what the people who brought us Web.1 thought it should be. ;-)

It's just taken a little time to get the networking/labeling stuff developed.

That said, it's still going to take us human types to make sense of many things -- if only to subtract the haystack from the pearls.

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E-merging Technologies
4:02 PM EDT 6/6/06 as a reply to Bob Watson.
That's the first time I've seen that done (thread switching) thanks.

You wouldn't like to switch over to (or merge) with this thread would you.
http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=6615
It's the same one from what i can see, and I do like to keep similar things together.
Re: E-merging Technologies
4:10 PM EDT 6/6/06 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
I'm afraid we'd lose our WJ component. :-(
Re: E-merging Technologies
4:46 PM EDT 6/8/06 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Not hopeful that WJ would gain an edna one?
I rest my case your honor.
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
8:18 PM EDT 8/23/06 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
Fun video on Web 2.0 over at Fast Company's blog - Just in case you missed it over at TechCrunch earlier this month, Michael Arrington hosted a 24-minute documentary entitled, "What is Web 2.0?"

http://blog.fastcompany.com/archives/2006/08/22/web_20_the_movie_and_more.html

In the video Arrington conducts conversations with 13 Web 2.0 CEOs about what Web 2.0 is, whether we're in a bubble, what business models work, what is the role of publishers, and how important and how large is the early adopter crowd, along with other issues related to user adoption trends and technology. For certain, Web 2.0 is about technologies such as Ajax, Mash-Ups, Flash, Tagging, and open source applications. But mostly Web 2.0's central focus is user participation.

Participants included Joe Kraus (Jotspot), Scott Milener (Browster), David Sifry (Technorati), Auren Hoffman (Rapleaf), Chris Alden (Rojo), Jonathan Abrams (Socializr), Aaron Cohen (Bolt), Jeremy Verba (Piczo), Steven Marder (Eurekster), Matt Sanchez (Video Egg), Godhwani (Simply Hired), Keith Teare (edgeio), and Michael Tanne (Wink).
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
1:35 PM EDT 9/6/06 as a reply to Janet Salm.
>>But mostly Web 2.0's central focus is user participation.<<

You hit that one on the head!

Thanks for pointing out the video. I think it's worth listening to what some of the Web movers & shakers have to say.
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
7:12 PM EDT 9/22/06 as a reply to Betha Gutsche.
Just saw this link on Web4Lib and had to share:

http://news.yahoo.com/comics/foxtrot

The ultimate in user participation. ;)
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
8:54 AM EDT 9/24/06 as a reply to Betha Gutsche.
The comic of Sept. 22 I assume?

The 23rd is also apropos, for sure.
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
2:57 PM EDT 9/25/06 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Thanks for the clarification --yes, I was looking at the 22nd. The 23rd is even funnier. emoticon
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
11:15 AM EST 2/6/07 as a reply to Betha Gutsche.
Great YouTube piece:

http://infosthetics.com/archives/2007/02/web2_in_5_minutes_movie.html
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
11:16 AM EST 2/6/07 as a reply to Bob Watson.
And a critique thereof: http://groupblog.workasone.net/archives/2007/02/overstating-the-significance-of-web-20/
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
1:27 AM EST 2/13/07 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Hiya,

Just popped in to drop this one on yu.
my little global crew think it's a good answer to the web 2.0 question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE&eurl=
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
12:48 PM EST 2/13/07 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
Heh. Same as above. :-)
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
6:13 PM EST 2/28/07 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
Hello,

I must be visual, because it helped me wrap my brain around the answer a bit better. Thanks
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
4:56 PM EST 3/6/07 as a reply to simon fenton- jones.
Odd, that no one brought up Crawford's article http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ6i2.pdf which is a very good summation as of several months ago.

Personally, from the perspective of someone who spent time working in a small, public library with a clientele that was provided very personal service (by real, human staff!), I tend to think that Web2.0 is a way to utilize technology to make 'personalized' service more anonymous. The user does not owe anything back to the agency that provides the service. Users may be thankful, but will they write checks to the Friends of the Library group?

Hm....
Re: What is Web 2.0 really?
12:34 PM EDT 3/23/07 as a reply to Archived Member.
Glad you shared that Crawford link, Larissa! So much interesting info there.

When I think about 2.0 stuff "in action", one of the libraries that comes to mind for me is Tonganoxie Public Library. Tonganoxie is a Kansas community of about 3500. The library is really valued within the community and they are great at providing face to face service. The librarian also does a lot with 2.0 style technologies -- Instant Messaging, a blog, etc... You can see some of the things by going to their website http://www.tonganoxielibrary.org

Brenda
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