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11:23 AM EDT 8/1/05
A library related wiki:

LISWiki: http://www.liswiki.com/wiki/Main_Page and http://www.liswiki.com/wiki/LISWiki:About


And some more about LISWiki:

"LISWIKI: THE FIRST 30 DAYS" by John Hubbard http://marylaine.com/exlibris/xlib257.html
Re: Wikis
1:20 PM EDT 8/18/05 as a reply to Ross Riker.
Another wiki of potential interest:

"Library Success: A Best Practices Wiki"

http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Main_Page


Apparently, there must be some reciprocation between WJ and the wiki, although I was unable to find it via a search:

http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=WebJunction
Re: Wikis
5:51 PM EDT 8/19/05 as a reply to Ross Riker.
There is a connection indeed!

The focus for September will be 'Online Community" and the ways and means of bringing it into libraries. WebJunction is collaborating with Meredtih Farkas (instigator of the Best Practices wiki) to collect articles and information about the use of social software in libraries.

An email message was sent out to all WJ members on our mailng list soliciting stories and experiences with social software and encouraging them to post those to the wiki. Although we have received a quantity of email responses, none of the WJ members have posted to the wiki yet (as far as I know). The opportunity to do so is ongoing and I'm sure we'll have more to say about it when the focus goes live in a couple of weeks.

I think many of us are just beginning to understand what a wiki is and it's another huge step to actually add content to a wiki. It's also a time factor.

Have you ever contributed to a wiki?
Re: Wikis
6:48 PM EDT 8/23/05 as a reply to Betha Gutsche.
No, I do not recall contributing to a wiki, yet. I have definitely used several different ones and see their potential. However, as I think Will has hit on, right now I see them as more behind the scene tools / resources, than perhaps front line items, especially for small libraries.
Re: Wikis
12:57 PM EDT 8/22/05 as a reply to Ross Riker.
The key points that need to be answered for libraries, regarding wikis, are these (IMHO):<P>

What are the advantages/disadvantages of a wiki FOR A LIBRARY over other available forms of web presence, i.e. a traditional web site, a blog, etc.? In other words, what would a library use a wiki FOR? and WHY?
<P>
What are the security issues regarding a wiki, and how best can a library deal with those issues? Even the biggest/best known wiki out there, the <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/">Wikipedia</a> had to eventually take measures to protect valuable content, and to prevent casual graffiti and even worse, deliberate ideological changes to established content.
<P>
Will
Re: Wikis
5:51 PM EDT 9/13/05 as a reply to Will Stuivenga.
Hi there,
I can share a couple of thoughts about how I see them being useful in library contexts.

I think some bigger libraries might find a wiki valuable in place of a staff intranet. It's better than a blog for those purpose, because it's not chronological, but is topical instead. And I think it's better than a traditional website for the purpose because it's easier to update and it's easier for a larger number of people to contribute.

I work for a multitype system in Kansas and we're going to create a wiki for a shared automation project with which we're involved. It will be used as a repository for the information we create (training materials, promotional materials).... The audience for this wiki will also be the creators of this wiki (not the end user public, but the staff at the various libraries). The categorical nature of a wiki is better suited for this than the chronological style of a blog, since different libraries are at different stages in the shared automation project.

Brenda
Re: Wikis
2:22 PM EST 11/17/05 as a reply to Ross Riker.
This article may also have relevance to ASPs and Thin Clients:

"Bricklin's wikiCalc: Much much more than just a mashup of wikis and spreadsheets":
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2141

wikiCalc:
http://danbricklin.com/log/2005_11_09.htm#wikicalc
http://www.softwaregarden.com/wkcalpha/

Sample page:
http://home.comcast.net/~duivel/
Re: Wikis
12:16 PM EST 11/18/05 as a reply to Ross Riker.
Article: "Wiki news: Of the people, by the people"
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588-5953168.html
Re: Wikis
5:04 PM EST 11/29/05 as a reply to Ross Riker.
This coming Tuesday (Dec. 6) we will be having a presentation at our library called "What's a Wiki" as part of the series that I coordinate every month called the Tuesday Technology Talks. It is indeed a hot topic... our guest speaker is Ira Fuchs of the Mellon Foundation in NYC and it should be a full house judging from the response that I have gotten so far.

I just finished reading an interesting article in the current issue of BusinessWeek (Nov. 28, 2005, p. 111) called "Email is So Five Minutes Ago" that predicts the demise of e-mail and the rise of text messaging, blogs and wikis as the preferred method of electronic communication. Give it a read... let me know what you think.
Re: Wikis
5:35 PM EST 11/29/05 as a reply to Janie Hermann.
Hi Janie,
Thanks for sharing this article - very interesting! Business Week has it on their website:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_48/b3961120.htm

I thought this comment was funny:
"None of this is to imply, however, that e-mail is on its way to floppy disk-dom"
We still have a lot of libraries where floppy disks are still used regularly. I'm just now starting to see libraries buy computers that do not contain a floppy-disk drive.

I was just in a committee meeting this AM and when we were talking about how to proceed with a project, someone asked if we could continue our work via email... and people seemed hesitant, so we decided to use a blog instead. So many people are just so email overloaded that I think there's a fear that email collaboration won't work -- that key messages will get pushed lower and lower in the in-box without being tackled. Blogs keep things in a neat chronological place, with multiple contributors, etc. I can definitely see that wikis will have a place, too. We're using them a bit, but not to the same degree that we're using blogs (YET).

Again, great article!
Thanks!
Brenda
Re: Wikis
11:47 AM EST 12/7/05 as a reply to Brenda Hough.
Here's an e-mail I sent to Wikipedia this morning:

* * *

Good morning,

In light of Wikipedia’s changing policy (registration required before creating a new entry), I’m wondering whether or not Wikipedia would consider partnering with the public library community.

My own library is in the process of “adopting” the entries for the two towns (and also the township) that it primarily serves. We “know” the history, the economy, current officials, and the live web links.

We’re probably not the only ones doing this.

It occurs to me that public libraries (and, I think, other libraries – but let them speak for themselves) have an obligation to insure that their users get accurate information. It’s of course quite variable, but public libraries often have expertise on the authors who live/have lived in their communities, on the institutions attached to their communities, and (frequently enough) subject experts who might want to contribute to Wikipedia if they saw it as a partner of the “library community.”

I see this as a win-win.

Sincerely,


Bob Watson
Director
Lake Villa District Library
Lake Villa, Illinois
Re: Wikis
2:15 PM EST 12/8/05 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Ooooo. I like it. Did you hear back?
Re: Wikis
2:25 PM EST 12/8/05 as a reply to Chrystie Hill.
Not yet.

I sent it to the "general correspondence" address, so it may not have surfaced yet.

I've been asking about for the founder's address ...
Re: Wikis
6:10 PM EST 12/9/05 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Speaking of the "obligation to insure that their users get accurate information," I just saw [url http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm ]this article[/url] about a false Wikipedia entry --a ficticious and malicious biography of John Seigenthaler Sr., an assistant to Attorney General Robert Kennedy in the early 1960's. As the object of the abusive entry, Seigenthaler is understandably pretty sour on the idea of untraceable authorship.

I like the idea of "adopting" specific sections of Wikipedia. I wonder how many librarians it would take to do this effectively. Apparently, the section on Star Trek has a hyper-alert tribe of "wiki gardeners" who will correct mischeivous changes within a few hours.

I'll be very interested to hear what Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has to say about your idea. How could he not love it?
Re: Wikis
11:33 PM EST 12/11/05 as a reply to Betha Gutsche.
I had a Tech Talk at our library this past Tuesday on the topic of Wikis and Wikipedia in specific. It sounds as if Jimmy Wales is still very much committed to keeping the Wikipedia a collaborative effort "created by the people for the people".

Yes, they now require registration at Wikipedia in order to create an entry in light of this Seigenthaler case, but when you register you are not required to give an email address or your real name. There is no verification of the the information. Hence, it is only a band aid solution. Also, you do not need to register in order to edit an entry. So, I am not sure anything has been solved at all in terms of responsible authorship.

Oh, and we have the confession for the Seigenthaler episode:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002677060_wiki11.html

Message was edited by: Janie (corrected link)
janieh
Re: Wikis
11:38 PM EST 12/11/05 as a reply to Janie Hermann.
Ooooh, this is an interesting article that delves in to the "paper thin protection measures" that Wikipedia put in place last week:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/technology/personal_technology/13382496.htm

On a side note, our library is seriously considering building our own wiki for editing library policies and procedures. It makes perfect sense. Wiki's have so many uses and I think this might be one of the best ways to use the features offered in wiki software -- to collaboratively edit important institutional documents. You will have a history of all our edits, discussions can occur and you can revert back to an older version of a policy if a change doesn't work out.
Re: Wikis
12:42 PM EST 12/12/05 as a reply to Janie Hermann.
Janie, thanks for the update on the story. The plot thickens ...

Very interesting that the perpetrator was tracked down by some very clever Internet sleuthing. Daniel Brandt had only an IP address and the ISP to work with.

I thought this quote from the first article you linked to was apropos of Bob's comment:

Seigenthaler, founder of the First Amendment Center, said that as a longtime advocate of free speech, he found it awkward to be tracking down someone who had exercised that right. "I still believe in free expression," he said. "What I want is accountability."

I think wikis are a nifty solution for internal communication and project development. You don't have that accountability problem. Let us know how your policy wiki works, if you decide to do it.
Re: Wikis
1:16 PM EST 12/27/05 as a reply to Janie Hermann.
Here's the reply I received to my Wikipedia inquiry. It's a response from a volunteer.

* * *

Dear Bob Watson,

Thank you for your mail.

"Bob Watson" <BWatson@lvdl.org> schrieb:

> In light of Wikipedia's changing policy (registration required before
> creating a new entry), I'm wondering whether or not Wikipedia would
> consider partnering with the public library community.

Wikipedia is currently evaluating new policies in order to improve the current article basis and to deal with the consequences of having an open editing process. We appreciate any comment on how to do our job better, especially from librarians. I would like to point the following url to you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Librarians

> My own library is in the process of "adopting" the entries for the two
> towns (and also the township) that it primarily serves. We "know" the
> history, the economy, current officials, and the live web links.

I think this is great news and I would love to hear again from you about your experiences in keeping the relevant articles up to date.

> We're probably not the only ones doing this.

I hope not emoticon

Yours sincerely,

* * *

The link leads to some librarian activity ... mostly fact checking and a bit o' category creation ... but not something along the lines of what I propose. I think the issue of bogus/malicious/erronious entries is one that Wikipedia will *have* to address even if it makes the process more complex and less "wiki."

It may well be that those of us here need to lead a charge from the library community end of things ... perhaps a brief article in LJ or American Libraries.

I'm up for it. Anyone else?
Re: Wikis
6:57 PM EST 12/29/05 as a reply to Bob Watson.
That's cool that you got a reply, if not from the top dog.

My impression is that the responder doesn't really get what the library community could do for Wikipedia. Maybe Jimmy Wales would have been more eager to tap into the latent energy of librarians. But it's all built by volunteer effort, so you're probably correct in the assumption that the charge needs to be led from the outside.

Maybe some of the [url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Librarians#Members ]members[/url] of the existing librarians WikiProject would like to join in. They've already shown interest, but the efforts so far seem kind of scattered.
Re: Wikis (upcoming OPAL program)
10:47 AM EST 1/3/06 as a reply to Janie Hermann.
Hello and happy new year!

I see that there is an upcoming OPAL program all about wikis. See details at:
http://www.opal-online.org/progschrono.htm (January 12th)

If you haven't tried OPAL, I highly recommend checking it out. It's free online programming for all libraries. You can attend web-based sessions on a wide variety of topics. And it's FREE! http://www.opal-online.org

Brenda
Re: Wikis
7:52 PM EST 2/20/07 as a reply to Ross Riker.
Last summer I ran a "Computer Camp" with 5th to 8th graders. Over the course of a week they created content on our Milford Town Library, Milford Travels Wiki. The students had to find factual information about a city, state or country, from a print or web source, summarize and cite the content for the wiki. To then let them personalize the page, they were able to add a story of their visit to the place with photos and an original drawing which was scanned onto the wiki. Check it out here:
http://milfordtownlibrary.wikispaces.com/

I got the wiki software from wikispaces through Web Junction!
Re: Wikis
10:12 AM EST 2/21/07 as a reply to Bernadette Rivard.
Nice project! I'm going to tell our Youth Services dept. about it.

Thank you for posting this.
Re: Wikis
3:27 PM EST 3/9/07 as a reply to Ross Riker.
Has anyone read about the recent Wikipedia scandal involving an editor misrepresenting his credentials (link is below)? Do you think this type of scandal hurts the reliability of wikipedia? Or is it irrelevant, especially considering you don't theoretically need any credentials to contribute, and its reliability is based on people checking each others' entries? I'm just curious to get other people's take on this.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257340,00.html
Re: Wikis
3:30 PM EST 3/9/07 as a reply to Karen Collier.
I tend to think that the result will be to "de-wikify" Wikipedia somewhat ... they've at least announced some requirements for credentialing. Then it becomes problematic, though, as to how a "true but minority opinion" can co-exist with "accepted wisdom."