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CHKDSK at bootup
10:10 AM EDT 6/19/06
Well I had one problem that escalated to other problem. I tried to run updates on a Gates PC that hasn’t had the latest version of Window updating software. Well it didn't allow me to update the software, so I restarted the machine and the same thing happen. Well when I restarted again I got on the blue startup screen: "CHKDSK is verifying files” and it will start listing “Files record segment 3954...4862…....is unreadable”

I have no idea what this means.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
11:39 AM EDT 6/19/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
It means that the files in that area of the hard drive are somehow corrupt.

Generally there are two causes of this -

1- Software corruption, where there may have been an error in writing the data originally, or something happened like the computer was turned off in the middle of writing, or any number of other causes.

2- A physical problem with the hard drive.

The second issue is normally the more serious, because it may be the first sign that drive will soon fail. The first issue can usually be dealt with if you can identify what software was written to the affected area.

Is the problem with Windows Update the only problem you have right now on this machine? And also it would really help to know what state you are in and what Windows version this is - very different Gates models went to different states.

Dale
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
12:34 PM EDT 6/19/06 as a reply to Dale Musselman.
I am from Pennsylvania and the Gates have WinXP. The computer was working fine until I started to run Windows Update. When I try to run windows update I got the screen “checking to see if the machine has the latest version of Windows updating software and Active X and it just stayed on that screen. So I decided to reboot and the same thing happen so the last time I rebooted this is when I got the CHKDSK. I only had been working on these machines since February of this year. I wasn’t here when they first were installed, the former Automation Tech Coord seen that happen.

For what I can tell for the other Gates machine it’s been a while since they were last updated. When I ran the updates the other Gates it was like 47-52 updates needed to be downloaded and installed.

I all new to this, how can I identify what software was written to the affected area?
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
2:55 PM EDT 6/19/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
I think the best thing to do at this point is to scan the drive for physical errors. The problem with CHKDSK is that although it can tell you there is a problem, it can't tell you if it is hardware or software. If it is hardware, then it may turn out to be pointless to try to solve the software issues. If the hard drive checks out fine, then you can try solving the software issues.<br>
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I would suggest downloading and using GWScan from Gateway support. It will do a full surface scan and identify and try to fix any errors. It will also tell you if it finds too many errors to fix. There are instructions for using <a href="../do/DisplayContent?id=7277">GWScan on a Gates PC</a> at PAComputing
Those instructions include a link to an old version of the file, but I would suggest <a href="http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/getFile.asp?id=20507&dscr=GWSCAN%205.11&uid=126539234">downloading the current version from Gateway</a>.<br>
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To change the boot order, you'll need to get into the BIOS, which may be password protected. If it is and you don't have the password, there are also <a href="../do/DisplayContent?id=7218"> instructions for clearing it</a>.<br>
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Let us know the results, and we can probably give you some more ideas from there.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
12:17 PM EDT 6/26/06 as a reply to Dale Musselman.
I am going to give this a try and let you know what happens. I have to see if anyone knows the BIOS password, if not I will try your other suggestion.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
12:50 PM EDT 6/26/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
If no one knows, you can also email me, and I can probably tell you what it would have been originally. Just be sure to include your full library name.

You can email me at: musselmd -at- oclc.org

Dale
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
1:45 PM EDT 7/18/06 as a reply to Dale Musselman.
Well , I went into the BIOS and I start to follow the directions and by the way the new GWSCAN from Gateway is too large of a file to store on my floppy so I downloaded the older version on the floppy and the newer version on a CD.

So when I get into the BIOS, and once I got to step 6 on "Scanning Your Hard Drive with GWSCan from a Boot Disk" Floppy drive wasn't an option so I couldn't go any further. And when I exited out of the BIOS the DOS prompt (A:\>) comes up but it won't except anything I type in. It just repeats the A prompt cmd.

I have no idea what to do with this machine. Any other suggestions.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
2:17 PM EDT 7/20/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
I can't remember for sure if the BIOS in the PA model has an option for disabling booting from floppy and CD. I'm thinking it might. So if you go back into the BIOS, on the Boot screen, you could look for a Drives option where you can identify the type of drives you allow the computer to boot from. If the option exists on this computer it is probably set to allow only booting to the hard drive.

but at this point, I would highly recommend calling Gateway Support and letting them walk you through this. They will be able to get you past any glitch where things don't quite follow what the directions say.

Even though you are no longer under warranty, they will help with this sort of hardware troubleshooting, and you are also able to call their Premier support line ( 1-800-846-2504 ) which helps a lot as well. In the end, if it is a bad hard drive, they will of course, offer to sell you one, but you can probably get one cheaper elsewhere.

Finally, on other option would be to go back into BIOS and choose to boot from the CD/DVD drive, and then boot to the first Software Upgrade DVD and do the whole upgrade again. This will take about 3 hours, but if it gets all the way through, and works, you are probably fine, and if you get errors, then it's another indication that the hard drive is probably bad.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
12:49 PM EDT 7/21/06 as a reply to Dale Musselman.
Well Dale,

I call Gateway and they believe I need a new hard drive. Because since I last talk to you its making clicking noise when booting and stating bad hard drive. So if my Director approve we going to buy a new hard drive and hope this solve the problem. Thank you for all your help with this issue.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
2:14 PM EDT 7/21/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
Is it ok if I move this to the Gates PC forum under Software? Let us know ... thanks!
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
3:26 PM EDT 7/21/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
It's actually nice when it gives you clear signs like that. Definitely, clicking and the bad drive message are pretty clear symptoms.

The good new is that you can replace it with any ATA hard drive that is 80GB or larger. I would reccomend buying something that runs at 7200 RPM. This shouldn't cost more than about $50-60.

And once it's in, you just need to boot to and run the 5 Software Upgrade DVD's to get all the software back on.

And Chrystie - moving the thread is fine with me emoticon
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
2:53 PM EDT 7/22/06 as a reply to Chrystie Hill.
Just be careful it doesn't come unraveled...
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
2:57 PM EDT 7/22/06 as a reply to < maddog >.
I'll keep it all together - just want to make sure tfinney sees this before we make the move.
ummmm
2:59 PM EDT 7/22/06 as a reply to Chrystie Hill.
It was only a joke - we have every faith in your thread moving abilities...
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
12:52 PM EDT 7/24/06 as a reply to Chrystie Hill.
Thanks. Its fine.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
12:55 PM EDT 7/24/06 as a reply to Dale Musselman.
You mention the “5 Software Upgrade DVD's to get all the software back on."
Was this something that came with the Gates when they were first install?

Also when I called Gateway that quoted me 40GB about $70. Does it matter where I get the hard drive from?
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
3:29 PM EDT 7/24/06 as a reply to Tanya Finney.
These computers originally came with Windows 2000 installed. Sometime in 2004 you got an upgrade to Windows XP. That upgrade came in a white zip-up, 3-ring plastic Binder that is labeled something like "Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Windows XP Software Upgrade." In the binder are all the individual CD's for all the applications, plus the 5 Upgrade DVD's.

The upgrade DVD's are a complete hard drive image. You boot the computer to the first one and follow the onscreen directions, inserting each of the 5 in turn (takes about 40 minutes per disc). Once it's finished, you have everything, Windows, applications, profiles, security, etc. installed. You don't need to use any of the other discs in the binder.

So obviously you want to find that binder. Worst case and you can't, you could try asking around any other libraries near you that have the Gates computers. All the computers and software granted in the state are identical.

As far as the drive, it definitely needs to be an 80 GB drive or larger - the upgrade discs won't work on a smaller drive. You can see a list of the specifications for the granted computers here:
http://pacomputing.webjunction.org/do/DisplayContent?id=7369

If it were me, I wouldn't buy it from Gateway, just because you can get hard drives cheaper elsewhere. As long as it is 80GB+, and ATA (not SATA), you'll be fine.
Re: CHKDSK at bootup
4:28 PM EDT 7/25/06 as a reply to Dale Musselman.
moving...
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