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Re: Bandwidth Limiting
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Bandwidth Limiting
10:56 AM EDT 6/4/07
Now that summer has arrived and our public PC’s are being heavily utilized, I think we are hitting the limits of our bandwidth. We have a number of patrons playing videos while looking at Myspace and doing other bandwidth intensive things. I am looking for a way to put an upper limit on the amount of bandwidth that any particular patron can consume on a PC, but I am not sure how to accomplish this.

Adding a second cable modem would mean all sorts of network grief and extra cost, and filtering out or blocking Myspace and videos is pretty much out of the question (though part of me would love to do that!), so just about all I can see is bandwidth control.

All of our PC’s reach the internet through a PIX firewall and out to a cable modem. If anyone else has encountered this situation and found a viable solution, I would appreciate your advice.

Thanks,
Wendell
Re: Bandwidth Limiting
11:41 AM EDT 6/4/07 as a reply to Wendell Gragg.
Hey Wendell -

Any idea if that firewall supports bandwidth throttling? Seems like that is what you want to do. It is pretty common in medium and larger sized libraries. My understanding is that it is usually done at the router or firewall level, or that you could set up a server to do this. Basically it sets an upper limit on the download speed of each machine to protect against exactly what you are experiencing.

I don't have any experience with these products, but there are some links at the bottom of this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling

Dale
Re: Bandwidth Limiting
5:00 PM EDT 6/4/07 as a reply to Wendell Gragg.
S/D offers a product, "Live Network" from the following company: http://www.cymphonix.com/

I have not worked with the PIX products in several years, but generally, Cisco built most of the quality of service (QoS) functions into the router rather than the firewall. This may have changed, but from a quick poke around the Cisco site, it looks rather limited as to what you could do with the firewall versus the router.

The OSS options listed on the Wikipedia are another bet.

Unfortunately, it seems, as usual, to come down to choosing two of the three: fast, cheap, or easy.

A couple questions:
where would you say your level of comfort with OSS technology is?
I messed around with a OSS firewall called Smoothwall - it had all sorts of modules, including bandwidth "shaping" / "throttling" that could be added to it relatively easily (you have to recompile the kernel). More info at http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7922&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

You can also purchase their QoS product from their commercial side, but it looks fairly pricey, although the other commercial products are also in this range or more based on my limited experience from a couple years ago:
http://www.smoothwall.net/products/smoothtraffic3/

Do you have any budget for either purchasing some type of appliance and/or implementing a solution if you found an OSS-based solution?
Re: Bandwidth Limiting
12:22 PM EDT 6/9/07 as a reply to Chris Jowaisas.
The other options I came across from a couple more searches -

Packeteer - http://www.packeteer.com/ - this is a pretty high-end appliance and from what I have read and vaguely recall from the last place I worked where they used it, it has the matching high price tag.

Net Equalizer - http://www.netequalizer.com/ - looks like it does many of the same things as Packeteer, but comes in around $1800 - i always like when proucts put their pricing on their website.

Hope those help - chris
Re: Bandwidth Limiting
11:40 AM EDT 7/9/07 as a reply to Chris Jowaisas.
Something we ran into that looked like a bandwidth problem -- someone sitting on our WiFi network using his/her laptop for filesharing. Not much was getting out of the building because so much was trying to get in!
Re: Bandwidth Limiting
3:53 PM EDT 8/29/07 as a reply to Wendell Gragg.
I just started to listen to this podcast and generally my experience with the OPLIN people is that they know what they are doing, so my guess is this contains some useful advice on this topic:

http://www.oplin.org/4cast/index.php/?p=99

Program Description:
"Lately there have been several messages on the OPLINtech electronic mailing list concerning traffic shaping technology. Many libraries are finding that their Internet connections — which were just fine last year — are overloaded this year, and are looking to traffic shaping as a possible solution to this problem. We thought it might be a good idea to talk a little about this technology and how it might be used by a library."

All of this just screams though for a Common Craft video like for the RSS and WIki in Plain English they did here -
http://www.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english