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  <title>Association "divisions"</title>
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  <subtitle>Association "divisions"</subtitle>
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    <title>RE: Association "divisions"</title>
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      <name>Chrystie Hill</name>
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    <updated>2008-10-31T04:57:57Z</updated>
    <published>2008-10-31T04:57:57Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&amp;#034;Is there a librarian in the house?&amp;#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is brilliant. I&amp;#039;m going to blog about it.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Chrystie Hill</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-31T04:57:57Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>RE: Association "divisions"</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Bob Watson</name>
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    <updated>2008-10-30T19:05:16Z</updated>
    <published>2008-10-30T19:05:16Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Generally not in the &amp;#034;practical&amp;#034; sense of the type of professional development libraries need ... but a large issue for a profession that needs to recast itself to reflect its existence outside of libraries.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A parallel can be seen in health care.  Nurses seldom practice outside of institutions such as hospitals ... doctors can and often work on a consulting basis.  Hospitals go, which is to say offer new services, where their medical staff &amp;#040;doctors&amp;#041; drag them.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &amp;#034;biggest professional issue&amp;#034; in librarianship, IMO, is whether or not librarians can take advantage of new technologies and practices and impose them on their libraries.  Are they to be doctors or nurses?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This means that standards must be set by librarians, not by those institutions &amp;#040;or those representing said institutions&amp;#041; they work for.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Bob Watson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-30T19:05:16Z</dc:date>
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    <title>RE: Association "divisions"</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Chrystie Hill</name>
    </author>
    <updated>2008-10-30T01:37:19Z</updated>
    <published>2008-10-30T01:37:19Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I appreciate your distinction between library association and librarian association. This is helpful. And so, professional development for library staff is actually in conflict, you say, with ALA&amp;#039;s need to represent libraries to the people who support them? Seems a paradox to me...</summary>
    <dc:creator>Chrystie Hill</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-30T01:37:19Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>RE: Association "divisions"</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Bob Watson</name>
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    <updated>2008-10-29T18:27:11Z</updated>
    <published>2008-10-29T18:27:11Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Heh.  The long&amp;#045;standing ALA &amp;#040;etc.&amp;#041; problem has been ... who do they represent?  ALA is &amp;#040;officially!&amp;#041; not a professional organization&amp;#059; it is an &lt;b&gt;educational&lt;/b&gt; association that purports to tell people about libraries and provides library staff with a forum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Otherwise, it would need to be a &lt;b&gt;librarians&lt;/b&gt; association.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This makes it hard for it to define professional standards ... lower standards may actually help the libraries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The transformation to quasi&amp;#045;professional association began, in my opinion, with the opening of ALA to the recent graduates of Dewey&amp;#039;s first library school.  They, within a few decades, repurposed ALA but only to the extent that it&amp;#039;s become a &amp;#034;pushmi&amp;#045;pullyu&amp;#034; &amp;#040;if you recall your Doctor Doolittle&amp;#041;.   &lt;img alt='emoticon' src='http://www.webjunction.org/webjunction-theme/images/emoticons/big_grin.gif' /&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Bob Watson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-29T18:27:11Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>RE: Association "divisions"</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Chrystie Hill</name>
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    <updated>2008-10-20T20:57:16Z</updated>
    <published>2008-10-20T20:57:16Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Update: I joined both ALA and LITA over the weekend.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Chrystie Hill</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-20T20:57:16Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Association "divisions"</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Chrystie Hill</name>
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    <updated>2008-10-19T15:29:59Z</updated>
    <published>2008-10-19T15:29:59Z</published>
    <summary type="html">As part of the the open discussion following the LITA 2008 program, Andrew Pace brought up the idea that &amp;#034;new&amp;#034; or &amp;#034;recent&amp;#034; or otherwise &amp;#034;social media&amp;#034; librarians sometimes also avoid working with formal associations &amp;#040;such as ALA, LITA, etc.&amp;#041; and talked about the discourse around &amp;#034;to join or not to join&amp;#034;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This reminded me of the interview with Marilyn Mason, where she talked about the avoidance she&amp;#039;s noticed that some new professionals have to the administrator or director roles in libraries. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I&amp;#039;m guilty of both. I&amp;#039;ve been so frustrated with what I&amp;#039;ve seen from afar &amp;#040;ALA, etc.&amp;#041; that I haven&amp;#039;t felt like I wanted to join. Same with library director role. In our interview Marilyn explains this as a dis&amp;#045;interest in power. When she came up in the field, she said, &amp;#039;we knew that we had to have the power in order to get things done&amp;#039; &amp;#040;or something like that&amp;#041;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pondering...</summary>
    <dc:creator>Chrystie Hill</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-19T15:29:59Z</dc:date>
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